Loading …America has two days that celebrate independence. One commemorates the birth of a nation; the other, the liberation of its people. One is the articulation of a promise; the other, the beginning of its painful and long-overdue delivery.
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July 4th is America's true Independence Day, plain and simple. That's the day the Founding Fathers declared freedom from tyranny, building a great nation from the ground up. Now this Juneteenth thing, it's just another attempt by the left to rewrite history and divide us. Just another excuse to make hard-working Americans feel guilty for something they aren't responsible for. 1776, folks, that's when America was truly born. If you want to celebrate freedom, that's your day. Don't buy into this narrative that pushes us to focus on our past mistakes instead of our great achievements. MAGA forever!
Man, all this talk trying to compare the 4th of July with Juneteenth is just more divisive rhetoric the left pushes to make folks feel guilty about being patriotic. We can celebrate both days, sure, but if you ask me and any real American, the 4th of July stands tall as the real Independence Day. It's when we shook off those British chains and set the stage for what the Trump movement keeps fighting for – TRUE liberty and freedom! All these Dems whining about our founding just don't get it. They'd rather dwell on the negatives and try to erase history. Celebrate Juneteenth if you want, but don't mess with July 4th as the real America's birthday! MAGA! 🇺🇸
So tired of this PC nonsense trying to divide our great nation. July 4th is the REAL Independence Day. It’s when America was born, period. All this talk about Juneteenth being like some second independence day is just the liberals pushing their agenda, trying to rewrite history and spread fake news. We already have a day to celebrate America, and it’s the Fourth of July. Enough with the guilt-tripping! America isn't perfect, but it's the best country on Earth thanks to the values we celebrate on July 4th. MAGA! 🇺🇸
All this fuss about Juneteenth just another way to divide us! July 4th is THE Independence Day, always has been. It's when we broke free from those redcoat tyrants and started the great American story. Now, the Dems and leftwing media pushing Juneteenth to rewrite history and bash our founders. Sure, slavery's a stain, but America moved past it. Let's celebrate what unites us, not tear down our traditions. MAGA! 🇺🇸
July 4th is the REAL Independence Day, folks. It's what built this country! The founding fathers laid down the principles that made America great in 1776. Juneteenth? Just another way for liberals to rewrite history. Sure, it's important for recognizing when news of freedom reached the last slaves, but let's not kid ourselves—July 4th is when the nation was born, period. This article trying to equalize both days is typical leftist agenda. Stop messing with history and stop trying to tear down the accomplishments of our founders. Make America Great Again by standing by July 4th as our true Independence Day! 🇺🇸
just another attempt by the left to rewrite history!! look, july 4th is our REAL independence day. it's when america declared itself a new nation, free from tyrannical rule. that's what matters! these libs wanna push this juneteenth thing to overshadow the 4th of july, but it aint gonna happen. juneteenth is important for what it represents but stop making it a competition! classic fake news narrative tryin to divide us. let's focus on making america great again, not gettin caught up in endless guilt trips.
So tired of this leftist narrative trying to pit Americans against each other over these two holidays. July 4th is the true Independence Day, period. It represents the birth of the greatest nation on Earth, where freedom and liberty are for everyone. Juneteenth is just another attempt by the democrats to divide us and guilt-trip everyone about history. Yeah, slavery was bad, but we fixed it, and now they're still harping on it as if it's today's fault. Enough already. Focus on making America great again by honoring July 4th, not rewriting history with fake news and forced narratives.
So now they trying to tell us we need TWO independence days? Sorry but July 4th is the real deal—our country's birthday! Juneteenth is just another liberal attempt to rewrite history and divide us. We're getting fed up with this nonsense. July 4th is about celebrating the greatest nation on earth, built on hard work and values that Dems nowadays seem to forget. We need to keep honoring our FOUNDERS and their vision instead of getting caught up in this far-left agenda trying to distract us from what truly matters. Stay woke, patriots! 🇺🇸 #MAGA #RealIndependenceDay
Look, i get it, this whole juneteenth thing is trendy now, but let's not forget what really matters here. July 4th is the REAL independence day! It's the day America became America, the greatest country on Earth. The founding fathers gave us freedom, and that's why we celebrate it. Juneteenth is important, yes, but it's being used by the left to distract from real issues and divide us even more. More politicizing by democrats, shocker! 🙄 July 4th is about unity and American values, not this constant focus on the past. Let's celebrate our nation, not keep dragging it through the mud! #MAGA #AmericaFirst
As a traditional conservative, I’ve always held July 4th close to my heart as the day we celebrate the birth of our great nation and the timeless principles of liberty and equality it stands for. However, I am finding room to appreciate Juneteenth as well. It symbolizes the practical deliverance of those principles to all Americans, a reminder that our nation’s journey toward truly living up to its founding ideals has been complex and ongoing.
While I find myself nostalgic for the days when the conservative movement seemed more unified in its adherence to constitutional and foundational values, it’s crucial to recognize both of these days as complementary rather than adversarial. Embracing the promise of July 4th alongside the reckoning of Juneteenth doesn’t detract
As someone who treasures the principles this great nation was founded upon, I find the discussion of both the Fourth of July and Juneteenth both thought-provoking and essential. July 4th reminds us of the radical ideals put forth by our founding fathers which have set an enduring benchmark for freedom and governance. However, Juneteenth presents an important, albeit challenging, narrative of fulfillment and responsibility, reminding us of our complex history.
For a patriot, it's important to recognize that these two days tell a deeper story of America—one that mixes promise with reckonings and ideals with realities. Both days coexist as bookends of a journey that is still unfolding, demanding us to confront and reconcile past injustices while holding fast to the integrity of our founding values.
FINALLY a sensible reply
This entire narrative about Juneteenth being as important as July 4th is just more liberal agenda nonsense.
So now we're supposed to share the spotlight of our great nation's birth with Juneteenth? 🤔 Fourth of July is when America truly became America, when we stood up to tyranny and won our freedom. July 4th brought all opportunities—we don't need to change the narrative just to fit a modern agenda. MAGA! 🇺🇸
Just admit what you really are… A wanna-be Nazi
Why can't we just stick to celebrating July 4th like we always have?
The Fourth of July is THE Independence Day. It's when America was born, thanks to our courageous founding fathers who laid down the ideals we stand for.
Why do libs keep pushing this Juneteenth stuff? We should focus on what really unites us as Americans. The left loves to divide with these new holidays…
This article really got me thinking about the richness and complexity of our American story. As someone who deeply values the principles laid out in the Constitution, I find it fascinating to consider how these two meaningful holidays together paint a more complete picture of our nation's journey towards fulfilling its founding ideals. The Fourth of July is a testament to the bold vision of democracy and individual liberties conceived in 1776. And while it's easy to feel nostalgic for those 'good old days' when these principles seemed clearer, the reckoning of Juneteenth reminds us that the journey toward true equality is ongoing, something we should continually strive for.
United We Stand, Divided We Fall.
SORRY, JUST A FACT, PEOPLE OF COLOR WHERE NEVER INCLUDED. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE TRAIL OF TEARS, SLAVERY 500 +YEARS ETC, ETC, AND IT TOOK A CIVIL WAR, NOT ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR, HOW SO FEW THOUGHT THEY COULD OWN A HUMAN BEING, FOOD FOR FACT.
Maybe not the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Just the second.
Hell NO!!!
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The Fourth of July and Juneteenth are not competing holidays. They are two indispensable parts of the same, complex American story.
One without the other is incomplete, telling either a sanitized story of our ideals or a cynical story of our failures. To understand the U.S. Constitution and the nation it governs, we must hold the meaning of both days at once. It is in the space between the promise of 1776 and the reckoning of 1865 that the true, ongoing story of American liberty is found.
The Promise of 1776: A Declaration of Principle
On July 4, 1776, our founders declared a set of radical, “self-evident” truths: that all men are created equal, endowed with unalienable rights, and that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed.
This was the nation’s birth certificate, a profound statement of principle that has inspired democratic movements across the globe for nearly 250 years.
Yet, this noble declaration was written in the shadow of a great constitutional paradox. Many of the men who signed their names to these universal principles of liberty were slaveholders.
The freedom they declared for the nation was not a freedom they extended to the hundreds of thousands of Black people they held in bondage. This was the nation’s original sin, a hypocrisy so profound that it led the great abolitionist Frederick Douglass to ask in 1852,
“What, to the American slave, is your Fourth of July?”
He called it a “hollow mockery,” a celebration of a promise that was, for millions, a lie.
The Reckoning of 1865: A Declaration Delivered
If July 4th was the promise, June 19, 1865, was the beginning of the reckoning.
On that day, two and a half years after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed, and two months after the Civil War had ended, Union Major General Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston, Texas. His message, backed by 2,000 federal troops, announced that all enslaved people were free.
This was not the date that slavery was constitutionally abolished—that would come months later with the ratification of the 13th Amendment. But Juneteenth represents something more visceral: the on-the-ground enforcement of freedom. It marks the moment the promise of the Declaration, a promise that had to be redeemed in the blood of the Civil War, was finally delivered to the last enslaved people in the deepest reaches of the Confederacy. It is a celebration of liberation, resilience, and the beginning of the long, arduous constitutional journey toward equality through the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments.
One Nation, Two Independence Days
Given this history, a new question has entered our national discourse: in the spirit of inclusivity, should Juneteenth replace the Fourth of July as America’s primary Independence Day?
To pose the question this way is to present a false choice. It suggests one date must be elevated by diminishing the other. A more constitutionally mature perspective is that the American story is incomplete—and incoherent—without both.
To celebrate July 4th without acknowledging Juneteenth is to honor the ideal without confronting the struggle required to make it real.
It is to admire a beautiful promise while ignoring the fact that it was not kept for millions. Conversely, to celebrate Juneteenth without the context of July 4th is to focus on the struggle without the founding principles that gave it moral and legal power. It was the very language of the Declaration that abolitionists from Frederick Douglass to Martin Luther King Jr. used to call the nation to account.
The power of the American story does not lie in a flawless past. It lies in the tension between our founding ideals and our often-brutal reality. It is the story of a nation constantly striving, and often failing, to close the gap between the two.
A More Perfect Union: Holding Two Truths at Once
A mature republic must be capable of celebrating both its founding principles and its painful, ongoing struggle to live up to them. The Fourth of July and Juneteenth are not in conflict; they are in a deep and necessary constitutional conversation.
One is the nation’s thesis on liberty; the other is the stark, undeniable antithesis of its failure to apply it.
Why do we need Juneteenth when we've already got the 4th of July? Celebrate America's founding, not some divisive holiday made up by Democrats pushing their agenda! This country's all about freedom since 1776, not 1865. The 4th of July is the REAL Independence Day for everyone! Juneteenth's just more liberal guilt tripping, trying to make us focus on the past instead of looking forward. Can't keep changing history to fit some woke narrative! MAGA all the way, focus on what made America great from the start!